Author Topic: Competition sights for SP-01 (manual safety)  (Read 2339 times)

Offline jmac2112

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Competition sights for SP-01 (manual safety)
« on: April 10, 2020, 07:24:13 AM »
Greetings, fellow CZ addicts!  The last time I posted here, I believe I had only one CZ pistol (a 75B), but I have since added two SP-01s, a Shadow 2, and a P10-F.  I love them all, but I've actually decided that I like shooting the SP-01 in competition better than the Shadow 2, which is why I now own two of them (fully Cajunized).


Anyway, both of my SP-01s have the CGW EZD-40 sights installed on them.  I like these sights just fine, but the fact that they hang waaaaay over the back of the slide causes a little bit of butt puckering when it's time to manually decock.  If I still had the stock ring hammers on these pistols, I wouldn't even consider such a rear sight, but I have the aftermarket kind that are very angular and stick out farther.


I'm considering getting adjustable rear sights, and so far the main contenders are the Dawsons:


https://dawsonprecision.com/copy-of-dawson-precision-cz-sp-01-adjustable-sight-set-black-rear-black-front/




and the Zendle sights offered by CZ Custom (although it uses a ridiculously high 9.5mm front sight):


https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/front-and-rear-sights/cz-rear-sights-all/cz-75-85-p01-rear-sights/zdl-75-adjust-rear-front-sight.html




Both sights have a rather shallow notch (.080 and .085 respectively) compared to the EZD sights (.140).


Does anyone have experience with either of these rear sights, or do you have any other suggestions?  I'm not totally against fixed sights, but that would require going through the process of finding the right front sight height, and then doing it all again if I decided to change my load significantly. 


Thanks in advance for any help!


John

Offline jmac2112

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Re: Competition sights for SP-01 (manual safety)
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2020, 07:37:36 AM »

(sound of crickets chirping)

Methinks that the advent of the Shadow 2 has killed all interest in the SP-01 platform for competition....  Does anyone have anything to say regarding sights for the SP-01?  Anything at all that you either liked or hated?  :rolleyes:

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Re: Competition sights for SP-01 (manual safety)
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2020, 10:06:47 PM »
Am thinking of changing out the sights on my SP01 as well.  Has stock night sights.  Thinking of dawson and Mepro lights fiber optic but not adjustable.  I have pretty much gotten rid of the few adjustable sights that I had on my pistols, not many.  I have worked out loads that pretty much shoot to point of aim for the 9mm and the 40s and 357 sig.  I keep thinking of getting a shadow.  What about the SP01 and Shadow makes you now prefer the SP01?  I am going to swap out the triggers on both my SP01 and the 75b I have, flatter one.

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Re: Competition sights for SP-01 (manual safety)
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2020, 05:41:54 AM »
DrMark,


Thanks for the reply!  To answer your question, here's a brief history of my recent gun ownership (i.e. not counting all the messing around I did in my teens and 20s):


Got back into shooting three years ago at age 47 with a CZ 75B.  Loved the rest of the gun, hated the trigger.  Got the Cajun Gun Works Pro Package and installed it myself, so now I had a gun that I could shoot accurately and with ease (after a lot of practice).  Ended up installing the CGW EZD-40 sights, which I like quite a bit. 


When I got into USPSA the following year, I realized that the 75B had limitations as a competition gun, primarily the fact that the beavertail is curved in such a way that I kept impaling my hand on it when drawing from a surrender position.  I'm sure I could have trained my way around that problem, but the beavertail wasn't the only limitation of the 75B, and I was also itching to buy a new gun.  I ended up buying a Shadow 2 and putting a CGW Pro Package in it, which gave me the ultimate "gamer gun."


When I broke a trigger return spring during a match and had to switch to my 75B (which required switching holsters as well), I began to realize the value of having two identical guns for competition.  The price of another Shadow 2 + CGW Pro Package put me off, though, so I decided to buy a used SP-01 and transfer the Pro Package and sights from my 75B.  An SP-01 will fit in a Shadow 2 holster, so at least now I could switch between guns without much of a hassle, even though they weren't identical.  The plan was to shoot both guns for a while, pick my favorite, and then buy another one like that (and sell off whatever I needed to in order to fund the project). 


What I discovered was that even though the Shadow 2 is a theoretically a better competition gun in just about every way, I shot the SP-01 every bit as well.  I also found that I preferred shooting the 40 oz. SP-01 compared to the 46 oz Shadow 2.  Six more ounces on the front of the gun does help to soak up the recoil, but it also makes long dryfire sessions more of a chore, and it slowed me down just a hair on draws and transitions.  So I ended up buying  another gently used SP-01 (that already had the EZD-40 sights installed) and adding a Pro Package. 


If for some reason you end up buying the EZD-40 sights: I have found that while they work just fine on a 75B, they shoot about 2.5-3" high at 20 yards when installed on an SP-01.  I ended up buying the following Dawson sights, .215 tall x .100 wide:


https://dawsonprecision.com/cz-75-shadow-sp-01-fiber-optic-front-sights/


Even though they are listed as .215 tall, they actually end up sitting .225 measured from the top of the slide, which is the height I needed.  I wasted a little money learning that lesson.


My financial situation improved enough in the meantime that I have not had to sell the Shadow 2.  And who knows, I might end up going back to it at some point.  I'm a B class shooter right now, but as I move up the ranks I might find that the Shadow 2 offers advantages that I will be able to exploit.  For now, though, I'm happy with my SP-01s.




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Re: Competition sights for SP-01 (manual safety)
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2020, 06:23:37 PM »
Interesting.  I am currently in the socialist state of Washington and haven’t gotten a new pistol since the AG here figured that doing so meant they could access your medical records. Unconstitutional, of course it is.  I don’t have 10000 rifles at my beck and call to argue the point with him and the commie governor.  I like having two of models of pistols as well.  Of course with CZ have 75b and SP01, rats.  I will likely go with a fiber optic setup for the SP01 but might just covert it over to my Sig Romeo.  I have spare trigger return springs and take down levers which I guess are what goes out in this most often.