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b5.5dan:
The title says it all. I know many of us here are Concealed Carriers, and I'm just wondering who carries their CZ with "One In The Pipe". When I first started CCing, I was terrified to carry cocked and locked, but the more I looked into it, I decided that most modern firearms are designed to be carried thus.


I have lots of personal info to add/discuss, but I will wait and see if anyone bites.

Discus, Gentlemen!  :cheesy:

norcal616:
I always carry one in the pipe and i always get the decocker model...

chfields:
I always have my gun in Condition One, that's why I prefer the SA....

b5.5dan:
I always carry C1, but the only decocker model I have is the 52. I have all the confidence in the world in the manual safety, even though I know and appreciate the reasons for the decocker. I would own and carry a decocker model; it's just that my firearms don't have them.


The ONLY thing that my Witnesses have over my CZs is the ability to rack one in, manually decock the firearm, and then set the safety with the hammer down. I like that for a couple of occasions. Sometimes when "The District" is coming into my classroom, I have to tuck the shirt in and wear a tie. On those occasions I have a little "planner" with a velcro enclosure for my pistol and a spare mag. It just fits better with the hammer down.


Was that too much info? haha! Carrying at my work really is completely legal, even though that bothers a lot of people. Just not the people who count (Go Utah Legislators!)...  :laugh:

sirgilligan:
I only carry condition one if I am returning from condition zero.

All my semi-auto firearms, rifles to pistols, are always carried:
Loaded mag
Empty chamber
Safety off

Yes it has its risks.

I run all of my semi-auto pistols as if they are SA only pistols, even though the only SA pistols I have are Browning Hi-Powers and a Browning 1911-A1 22.
My CZ 85B, S&W 659, and Walther PPK/S.

With the safeties in different locations, and different directions, I always carry like described above.

Hammer position with my carry:
The Browning's have very heavy recoil and hammer springs. Sometimes, I will cock the hammer on the BHP so that when it is time to rack the slide it is easier.
Only sometimes, as it is necessary to double check the chamber when handling a BHP with the hammer back.

If I am concerned about something, I will go to condition zero and then set the safety.

If I am threatened I will go to condition zero and the next thing will be a bang. I hope to never go there.

I have no fear irrational fear of condition one, but proper equipment and care must be taken, the safety switch can be actuated, so do not draw with finger on trigger, make sure holster covers trigger.

There is an online report of a man with a holster that was leather, and the holster covered about half of the trigger guard area. The leather softened with use and puckered inward, into the trigger guard. It eventually made its way in front of the trigger and shot the guy in the leg while seated in his car.

When I am in a vehicle my pistol may find itself in the center console, the map pocket of the door, in the glove box, etc. Depends on the vehicle.

If I take a pistol to condition zero, and then back to condition one, when I get to a safe place I drop the mag, remove the chambered round, put round back in mag, return slide, insert mag (BHP has mag disconnect), lower hammer and get it back to Condition three.

Since I do all the same, it doesn't take any thought on what I may be shooting with at the time.

Yes, I could not have both hands available, all kinds of things. Yes, if in a vehicle, going from Condition Three directly to Condition One could result in a stupidity discharge. I am not willing to "what if" myself into the nursing home.

So, I do not carry Condition One, unless it is coming from Condition Zero.

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