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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2011, 08:21:50 AM »
             It's not all that different with Paypal. If they Know, know you are using them as the middlepersons in a weapons transaction, then will not only stop it they will ban you from ever using them again. (Actually all you need then is a VPN, a new email, and a different Credit Card) But there is no way at all those sanctimonious, two faced, hypocritical wankers aren't aware their service is used to buy weapons 24/7 365. And to make matters even more insulting, is that E-Bay owns PayHell and they (E-Bay) allow everything this side of a working firearm to be sold on their site. So as long as you don't tell PayHell What you are buying they are happy to take your money.  :angry: Janus (the 2 faced demi-god of the Greeks or Romans or the Washington Belt Way) should be the Patron Saint of that whole company or at least their corporate Logo
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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2011, 09:43:37 AM »
Ghost...don't hold back, tell us what you really think....... :laugh:
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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2011, 10:00:52 AM »
Well if you really want me too.................................. :tongue: :angel:
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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2011, 08:40:00 PM »
This is basically what I did.

I started by wearing my gun, CZ83 in a Yaqui style owb holster, in my holster at all times possible while in the house and secure in knowing I wasn't going to boo-boo in any way because there was no way I could. Who could see me? After I got comfortable with that after a few days, a short jaunt to the local WallyWorld to pick up some milk and bread. I was of course, overdressed with my leather jacket on a semi mild and fairly warm day.  The next day was warmer so I set out in a thick t-shirt and jeans to the local tradin' post. The only person that noticed anything different that day was the guy I was talking to about buying a new rifle at the tradin' post, and he only gave me a small knowing look that said I was doing okay with it.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to show anything, or even attempt to hide anything, I think, as was mentioned before, you just have to "forget" it's there and go on with a normal routine. Just remember the purpose. I hate to say this but, most people don't/won't notice anything unless it's grossly out of place.

Oh yeah, the first time I walked out of the house with my gun on, I felt as though I had a spotlight shining on me and a neon sign flashing on all sides of me

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2011, 08:56:05 PM »
Good idea! I always wear arpund the house. A couple people have asked why. I have some home invasion footage to share. I do need to lose some weight for more comfortable carry though...  :laugh:

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2011, 08:58:59 PM »
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I have some home invasion footage to share.
Love it!

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2011, 09:17:07 PM »
I was just thinking about something and I wanted to hear people's thoughts.
I have a CZ 75B and I'm planning on carrying it as soon as my custom holster and CCW permit arrive... both are taking longer than I had hoped but should be here by end of month hopefully (of course until Jan 2nd-3rd I'll be in gun-hating Illinois... oh well, bringing the guns anyway!). So, I realized when I was taking the CC course, the 75B has no decocker or anything, which means, if you load the magazine then rack the slide to carry a round chambered, the hammer is cocked. Say you don't want to carry it cocked and locked, you want the hammer down and safety on. Well then, as far as I can tell, you have to carefully start to pull the trigger while lowering the hammer manually while keeping a hold on it. Now of course I have done this several times, but unless I'm at the range or something where I can point downrange it makes me a little nervous if I have to set it up like this say at home or something. Nobody's perfect, and if you slip up and drop the hammer you may have a shot go off... but I see no way around this. If anybody has anything to say on this issue I'd like to hear it. I'd like to carry with a round chambered but not with the hammer cocked, personally.

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2011, 09:30:04 PM »
I have been using guns that had none of these no fangled decockers and stuff and never had a problem releasing the hammer. I had a 1911 for many years, just keep your thumb between the firing pin and the hammer and drop slowly and you should have no issue......
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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2011, 09:35:13 PM »
You don't want your hammer down on a live round. All it takes is a little snag and boom! It's Tex Grebner all over again. These pistols are designed to be carried C1. I have every faith in the safety of the, well, safety.  :laugh:

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2011, 09:35:48 PM »
Yeah, I mean I see it both ways because relying 100% on a decocker isn't necessarily failsafe either... chances of it failing on you seem next to nothing, but things happen... guess it depends who you ask though.

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2011, 09:37:18 PM »
Dan,
Can you clarify how you're more likely to have accidental discharge with hammer down than C1? Maybe I am not understanding something functionally...

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2011, 10:41:44 PM »
Yep. As soon as I get home and off my phone haha

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2011, 10:48:00 PM »
From what I understand, unless its an old gun, the likelyhood of it going off with the hammer down is pretty slim.....It is best to carry cocked and locked and use the safety, I have never had an issue, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.....just very unlikely....
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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2011, 11:11:23 PM »
So, with half-cock safeties the chances are pretty slim, but the danger would be in something catching the hammer, pulling it back not far enough to catch the half-cock but *just* far enough, and then releasing it. I don't know how likely it is to happen, but I would imagine that it's far more likely than if the hammer is cocked and the safety is on.

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Re: CC tomorrow
« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2011, 11:13:21 PM »
Yeah, while that scenario seems fairly unlikely, I see your point, and obviously you don't want that risk. I believe my 75B has a half cock safety, unless I'm mistaken. I'll have to look at it. Thanks for the info!