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I am ready to get a CZ75B once they're back in stock. I will need a safe to keep it away from our very inventive children. I am curious if anyone has had any experience with biometric (fingerprint ID) safes. Seems to me that it would be the most kid-proof (no combination to guess) and also the quickest to open; what are the drawbacks ?


Generally, what small safe would you recommend to store the gun and a couple boxes of ammo ? I want to keep it in the bedroom cabinet drawer, so a big gun safe is out of question.

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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 11:47:12 AM »
Biometrics suck. I recommend getting a small keypad safe. Keypads are just as quick to open if not quicker. You don't have to line up your fingers perfectly like you do on biometrics.  Just keep the code a secret. Like this one.

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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 08:51:30 PM »
I was thinking about getting one, but the reviews were generally negative. It seemed the finger pad isn't very responsive, and opening them takes too much time.

When I saw one at the local gun shop, its appearance did not inspire confidence in its ability to protect anything.

This was a small model that would fit in the draw of the night table by the bed.

Just my opinion.

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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 09:28:54 PM »
         I gave my daughter both a single pistol safe and a 2 or 3 pistol safe (depends on how big they are. Both are combinations with key access in case the battery dies and the combination doesn't work. Frankly I forget how the little one works but I can say the bigger one when opened with out the right combination or the key makes enough noise to wake the dead.

         BIOS have pluses and minuses also, most what has allready been said. The other thing is you really should program both hands because if you cut your finger tip badly enough the scanner will not read and not open the safe. Also if your hands are really dirty or greasy same problem, if I remember correctly.

        The thing about both those devises is that when you Need to get into them you are going to be less than calm and more then likely fumble the key, miss-enter the combination, or not get your hand in place correctly the first time. All adding to the stress level.

         If you had to pick a safe then I would suggest a bio safe, with a barrel lock back up. It's about the only thing I can thing of that will be next to impossible for a child, young adult and for that matter most average adults to pick open. Certainly they will never match the finger prints. And a Barrel lock (like on vending machines) is a world class pain to open without the right pick.

        All things to think about, all of them have good and bad points, none of which makes your decision any easier I am sorry to say. Oh ya and to make things less fun you will need to bolt the safe down somewhere/somehow so no one carries it off. That limits the places you can put/hide or mount it. Sorry, I think I have not helped you at all, but it's things some folks forget to consider when they aren't in the business of Security, or LEO's. I can only think to say that you put the weapon up as high as you can and out of sight. Don't take it down when the kids are home so they don't see where you keep it. And then (sorry you didn't say how old your children are) simply take them to a range and let them watch you fire it, and depending on age let them shot a couple rounds while you stand right next to them, watching closely. Maybe even a good idea to rent or buy a .22 for them to shot but only when you or your wife is with them. Not. your brother, aunt uncle or whomever. You really need to be there when your children are learning, even if you aren't the one shooting or teaching them. No offense meant. I was a LEO long enough to have seen or dealt with things I would rather forget, and sometimes I accidentally fall in to lecture mode. I do not presume to tell you how to raise your children or tell you what you may allready know all to well.
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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 09:35:51 PM »
LOL, just get one of those hexagonal wall clocks that you can swing the face open and get the gun out of it. Ugly as hell, but too high for kids to reach and most people just think they're an ugly clock. No key, code, or scanner to mess with or worry about.

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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 08:14:03 AM »
Well, after some more research I ended up getting a Stack-On small safe (box, really) with keypad and key backup. It was cheap ($44 after tax at Wallys), very sturdy, allows for an 8 digit combo so brute forcing the password is not practically possible. I can fit a gun, two magazines, speedloader and 3 50rd boxes of ammo in it (at least the white cubes of Federal, some other boxes may take up more space). It does have bottom holes so it can be screwed to some unmoveable object, but at this point I am concerned with kids, not thieves. About the only thing I don't like is that the keypad is not lighted, however it is a standard phone layout so I can dial the combo in complete darkness, just need to work on speed.

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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 11:46:18 PM »
         Hey would you please post a link to that safe/box you have? I'm sure some of the members may want to take a look at it. and I know I would, not that I have an children at home any more, but it sounds like a pretty good idea, and I would like to see it.
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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 08:25:46 AM »
Here's the link to that safe on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Stack--PDS-500-Drawer-Safe-Electronic/dp/B002KEIU4W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1319257822&sr=8-2

Wallmart carries it under "Winchester" brand but somewhere on the box it says "Stack-On". Price is about the same.

EDIT: Fixed link
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Re: Fingerprint / biometric safes - any experiences / recommendations ?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 09:00:29 AM »
       Thanks for the fix to the link. I don't have children or grand children so I'm not that concerned about where my weapons are at any one time. Hardly any visitors that I don't know and all adults, but still it seems like a good idea to have one, and apparently it appears to the reviewers that it will hold more than one weapon. Wouldn't hurt just to have a couple around the house and one for my wife's jewelery or for important papers.
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